Wilderness Conduit Tent FrameWE CAN SHIP FRAME 1 2 WEEKS AFTER ORDERING. WILDERNESS FRAMES, MONTANA FRAMES AND CUSTOM CONDUIT FRAMES Steel and Aluminum pole outside diameter is 1 1 8". Aluminum poles have approximately 25% less strength than steel poles. Frame Size Steel Weight Aluminum Weight 8x10 3R 71 lb 41 lb 10x12 3R 79 lb 45 lb 12x14 4R 110 lb 61 lb 14x16 5R 115 lb 66 lb 16x20 5R 147 lb 85 lb 16x24 6R 178 lb 104 lb I recommend you purchase an angle kit to make your frame